031: Unchained | Transform Your Business With The First-ever Permanent Jewelry Retreat Hosted by Lyndi + Shari

Jen Thyrion: Hey there, I'm Jen Thyrion, and I'm so glad you're here. I'm a former nine to fiver that dove into entrepreneurship eight years ago with zero business experience. I'm a wife, mama of two young girls, boutique owner, jewelry designer, and now the proud owner and coach leading Goldie Links Permanent Jewelry.

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com. Now onto the show. You're in for something truly, truly amazing. I am sitting down with Shari from Permanent Jewelry Training and Lindy from Permanent Jewelry Bestie. They have teamed up and collabing on a first ever permanent jewelry retreat called the Unchained Retreat. We are talking all about retreats, what this is going to entail, and honestly, this convo is like stepping into a mini retreat.

It got me so excited because trust me, I will be there. So I hope to see you on the beach. And you are just going to love, love, love this conversation and fall in love with Lindy and Shari. Have fun. All right, you guys, I feel like we're in such, in for a treat today. We have Shari and Lindy here today. I feel like I want to combine your names.

Like, could we do Shardi or? You

Lyndi Love: know, Lord, first, before I said it out loud, I have the right way. We do. But the other way's not any better. Lardi? Maybe we're not a celebrity couple. Lindy! Charlindy. Yeah, you can't ship us together. You can't ship us. Charlindy. Oh my gosh. I'm like, tell us listeners. What's your celebrity couple name be?

I know, right? Oh gosh, we should put a pull out. That'd be hilarious. Okay. Oh

Jen Thyrion: my gosh. Whoever wants to start first, let's just hear about you and who you are, whatever you want to share. Let us know all the things. Lindy nominated me to go first. Okay, as the first

Shari Tammietti: part of Shardy. I'm Shardy Tornietti. I am the owner of Permanent Jewelry Training Company.

doing permanent jewelry since: 2022

And I thought I could maybe do that. So there was a beauty expo coming to town. I put some money down on a booth and thought, who knows, am I going to sit here for eight hours and twiddle my thumbs or is it going to be a hit? And it was a hit. And here we are three years later. I've added Charm Bar, we kind of also do the Trucker Hat Bar, and the training course as well, so that's me.

I love it. I didn't actually know

Jen Thyrion: you did Trucker Hat Bar too.

Shari Tammietti: It's been over a year since we started doing them, but I started in like September, did a few little markets, and then it was cold, and I was like, eh, no outdoor markets for me. So then I kind of picked it back up again the beginning of this year, so it's been really fun.

Lindy, take it away.

Lyndi Love: Okay, well, and I'm not sure if we reference the fact that we're in our beachy clothes. I think we have to

Jen Thyrion: point that out, right? Yes, which we're, I'll definitely put a clip out on social media, you know, when we, you know, at least that, but we have our colorful beach wear. I'm wearing my husband's Hawaiian shirt, like kind of coconut.

Hawaiian theme shirt. I love it. I love it. Okay.

doing permanent jewelry since: 2022

You can't make money with jewelry, Lindy. That's a hobby. Like, that's a girl hobby. You've got to do the doctor or the lawyer or the, you know, tech thing. So I did. Until I saw permanent jewelry, wanted it, googled it, there was no place around me that did it. And I thought, you know what? I'm going to order all this stuff and I'm just going to have super cool jewelry and I won't tell anyone that I do it.

And I started just Becoming obsessed with it. I would be in meetings and then we'd be talking about, you know, Big multi million dollar projects and I'm sitting there thinking okay What if tungsten if I did this if I sharp like and I'm thinking about permanent jewelry and they I remember specifically a moment where I got asked a question and I was not paying attention because I was thinking about Jewelry, and I was like it is time.

lly did all things for all of: 2023

And then I'd go work permanent jewelry on the weekends and Finally in January of this year, after doing that for so long, I said, I'm not doing it anymore. I am all in to jewelry. And so here I am now jewelry, all things permanent jewelry is my world.

Jen Thyrion: That's amazing because real quick I know where I would love to dive like more into because I know for Shari we had talked separately but with Lindy tell us a little bit your tech background does that lead into and reason why like because you create some amazing things like styluses and in like you know the uh welding screen holder what what do you call this?

Yeah the Weld Vision Pro. Thank you and like so did that is that kind of Where that background comes from for you like really quick because I mean, I want to share kind of what you really offer. I know you offer training, but kind of go into a little bit more that you offer.

Lyndi Love: Yeah, sure. So I was in tech for quite a long time.

I also have a really diverse background and I also was a director at a civil engineering firm. So I've always been in these kind of techy engineering background. I was always the odd pink duck in the room in all these situations until I did do a stint in luxury direct to consumer services. And so that's where I really grabbed a lot.

I already had a marketing background from civil engineering, but then I, I put the lens of luxury consumer goods on it. And I've always just had a unique ability to look at something and say, gosh, this could be better. It could work better and then create things that work better. My husband is a welder and an electrician by trade.

So we have our own, we used to have a welding shop. Now we have our own whatever kind of shop you want to call it. It's a giant shop where we do a bunch of stuff. And we manufacture the weld visions here. We manufacture our grounded pliers here. I'll have an idea and he'll go create something and he'll bring it back.

And I'll look at it and I'll say, what if we move the tab like 360 degrees? And then it's, you know, it's that, it's really working together with him. I'm definitely the lead. He's a very good unpaid employee, as our Prince can be. It has really filled, not just the training, but inventing things, creating things, has filled that love of science and tech and kind of the geeky stuff.

Jen Thyrion: That's so cool because you have like the best of like all these little like pockets that probably fulfill you because jewelry obviously just like the being obsessed with jewelry that's like the pretty part right like the fun and then the tech like that's really cool how you tied it all together. I just want to take a moment for our husbands because obviously like my husband's a welder as well he has made and I dream up ideas all the time and he's so used to it and he's so patient so I have to say whether it be our husbands are like handymen like them or however else they fit into like just.

Dealing with our wild entrepreneur lives, right? And like our like drive and the things that we do and come up with, they have to be really patient and amazing partners, I have to say.

Lyndi Love: Yes,

Jen Thyrion: this episode is sponsored by husbands that put up with our shit. Can I say that? Seriously, it takes a special guy.

Okay, let's head right into why we're talking today, specifically, because this amazing Amazing retreat. It is unchanged. So let's kind of like start talking about how, how did you guys get your minds together and decide to do this together? Like, let's talk about that first. How did this collaboration happen?

Shari Tammietti: Um, because me, we've met one time. We don't, it's not like we go way back or anything. Uh, we met at PJX. We chatted a little bit before PJX and went to dinner, sat next to each other at dinner and just chatted because we kind of offer the same thing. So, you know, we were talking highs and lows and sharing woes.

We had chatted after as well, and then Lindy, I love, I just love this, I told this on my podcast too, but Lindy messages me and she's like, I know we're technically competition, like in every sense of the word, but what can we do together? I love that so much. And I was like, let's do a retreat, and here we are.

It just kind of snowballed. It just happened. I love it.

Lyndi Love: So what made you do that, Lindy? Like what made you reach out? Well, very similar version. Met at PJX, and I, I am a collaborator by nature. What I've found very difficult in entrepreneurship is what I miss from the corporate world is having teams, big teams and driving teams and working with others and collaborating.

And you can usually do a lot more with multiple minds thinking in different ways than you can by yourself. And I know it can be, it can be kind of, you know, you put your little, I don't know, you put your hand out there like there's, is there going to be a fire that burns me? Or are they going to like grab my hand and say, yeah, let's, let's do it.

So, um, I, we had met briefly at PJX and I loved her vibe. I had been thinking about a retreat and it was one of those things that just hadn't got off the ground yet because frankly, I felt like, gosh, I wish I had someone to bounce ideas off of or talk to about this because I know I can do it, but it feels really big.

And when she said retreat, I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, all over, because one thing at PJX, I could say, I think I made the mistake of, is I not only sponsored, but then I agreed to teach every day and multiple classes, so then when I wasn't teaching, I started and I ended, and I taught in the middle. So when I wasn't teaching, I was at my booth talking and selling, frankly, and I never got a chance to really connect with other people.

So there was always all these stories, right? At dinner and drinks and the cabanas. And I was like, and I was teaching or I was selling you pliers. So I didn't get any of that. So that was the other part when she said retreat, I was like, Oh, I know I need this. As a mom, as an entrepreneur, as a, you know, working, I mean, I have employees, but there's, it's just something different.

I was like, we need this. Let's do it. And Shari had been to this amazing resort. What we quickly found out about our personalities is like, she's chill and I'm high strung. Like I didn't get really wound up and she kind of, She's like this calming rod, which I really appreciate. And the fact that she had been to this place before, actually multiple times, just was this source of, okay, we can do this.

This is going to be awesome. And the rest is history.

Jen Thyrion: I love it. So have you been personally to business retreats? I don't want to say similar to this, but have you been to business retreats in general? Like Lindy, what's your experience with like, Whether it be masterminds, retreats, all that kind of thing.

Lyndi Love: I have, you know, I definitely practice what I preach about investing in yourself and your business. I've spent a lot of money on business retreats and mentors and programs. And even if I bought like a really crappy program, I always can find some takeaway that I can put into place in my business and see how it impacts my business positively.

And when I found about retreats, like one of, one I've gone to, multiple times in L. A. is, yeah, the content's great, but it's really not the time we're sitting there learning the thing that we're there to learn, the funnels or the whatever. It's the in between moments and the lunches and the breaks and we were sitting in this group of women that I met in L.

A., we were sitting in Soho House in L. A. and just around this fire and I'm looking around and I'm just, Sitting with these awesome multi millionaire women looking around and they're just, they're badasses. And it's those conversations where I've been able to take things I learned in those moments and grow my business, grow myself personally and professionally.

And I think we need more of those moments. We're always just like, go, go, go. So sometimes it feels like, oh. Gosh, am I going to pay my husband jokes? He goes, are you paying money to go hang out with women again? I can find you some free friends. I'm like, yeah, but you don't get it. There's like, there is something different about putting yourself in a room with people that have that same, you know, that ambition about their, their business.

It's just, you can't really get it. anywhere else in those moments.

ng to this, uh, mastermind in: 2018

I know for sure I was the dumbest person in the room. I know for sure I was the dumbest person in the room. But I was like, literally, that is what grew me so much that year in business. And like, literally, like you said, being around these women, that A, are like minded, that understand entrepreneurship.

They weren't even women in the same niche. I mean, this is, this is so amazing that it's permanent jewelers. I mean, there's nothing like, that is also just priceless. But these, just like you said, the, in between moments. I love that you said that because that is so true. Like you can learn anything. And I think we go right to digital and we go right to, well, we have everything at our fingertips.

We belong to these Facebook groups and we can take a digital course and we can watch anything on YouTube. But it's like the in person connection and the stuff that happens between people at a retreat. And it's just like the inspiration alone is like, it just grows you, right? You kind of see what's possible.

It makes you dig deep. There's nothing like it. I'm like, I'm a fan. I'm so excited because I feel like I haven't been to one in a while too. So that's why I'm like, well, I'm, I'm raring to go, but okay. Sorry. Share with me your experience with any retreats or what your, what your take on it is.

Shari Tammietti: I love retreats and I feel like.

Especially after COVID, people were just craving like connection and community and things like that. I like to call it continued excitement. Not continued, I mean, obviously continued education because you're going to learn something. You're going to walk away with something new. But the biggest part is you're continuing your excitement about your business.

Like for those of us who've been doing this for three years, especially if you're prone to, okay, what's next? That burnout can be real, so take a minute, pause, refresh yourself, and kind of like realign on what you're doing, why you're doing it, all of that. As far as my experience, I have been to, there was like a leadership retreat, it's called Rapport Leadership, it's in Alamo, Nevada, in butt crack Nevada, and there's nothing there, literally nothing there.

Sorry if anyone lives in Alamo, but it was just all about leadership skills and nobody was from the same thing. Like I was there as an aesthetics instructor. My school had sent me there. I was kind of like the lead instructor, so they had sent me there. And it was just so fun. That was probably one of my first experiences like that.

I just learned so much. So much as for me as a person. I learned about myself that really didn't relate to anything else. It was just like, Oh, I do enjoy that. Or, Oh, I am good at that. Or, you know, just little things that can help you improve in your business because you learn about you and you are your business.

So it was really, really fun. It was actually, it's kind of like high intensity. You're there for three days and you sleep there. You're in like bunk rooms. It's kind of like military style ish, which was so awesome. out of my comfort zone, but I just kind of leaned into it and I had so much fun. We won't yell at you at Unchained.

Like, you're not military style.

Jen Thyrion: But it does kind of bring you out. I was, we spoke a little bit, Shari, too, in our one on one chat because I had gone to, I think my last business quote unquote retreat was actually last year, March, and I went to Arizona. But it was a more or less, I didn't, I didn't kind of know I went there with the intention of business, but I left like just it was really a self discovery retreat is what I have to say.

And I think that is like so much a part of this. So, because like you said, we are our businesses. And really, I think the connection piece is so important. Clarity is what came to mind when you were talking Shari. It's like, yeah, getting clarity on like where you want your business to go. It looks different for everybody.

You know what I mean? Everybody is on different, you know, what feels good to them, what they're strong at. Like you said, it kind of, brings out in you like your strengths or, you know, because everyone has their own strengths and what they can bring to their business, right? That makes them them and makes them, that's their brand.

That's that's what they're about. Right. I love it. So if someone is hesitant and has never been to something like this, what would you say to them? I guess.

ven kidding. Probably in like: 2018

So that's how long this has stuck with me. And it kind of answers your question. And one of the things they talked about was. Imagine a dance floor. The music starts playing. What are you doing? Are you in the corner? Are you waiting for somebody else to dance? Are you waiting for permission to dance? Are you waiting for everyone else to dance?

And you'll see, are you a better dancer than them? Are they better dancer than you? Then you'll decide like to get on the dance floor. And so the kind of a takeaway of it was be the first on the dance floor, whatever that means, be the first on the dance floor. And that's something I've taken away. Like it doesn't matter.

If you're not the best dancer or whatever the dance floor is, you know, it doesn't matter. You'll figure it out, but be the first out there. And I think if someone's kind of on the fence thinking, should I go? Should I not go? Listen to your gut and just do it. Just freaking do it.

Lyndi Love: This is a fitting day for this podcast.

Uh, it's November 19th and it is National Entrepreneur's Day. I just saw that. Yes, it is. And I just actually posted something in my Facebook group that reminded everyone that it's National Entrepreneur's Day and said, don't wait for the perfect moment, create it. And we're creating moments in our business every day, just waking up and doing the, you know, sometimes it's great.

And then sometimes it's hard even to have that time Transcribed To commiserate with other people that are in your field is valuable. To celebrate with other people that are in your field is valuable. And someone said to me, you know, I don't know if I should go because I've only been doing Permanent Joy for six months and I don't really know if I have anything there.

And I was like, first, like it really hit me like, oh, one, don't ever feel like you don't have something to add. to the party. Like you, you have your own story and something you say or you've done or you've gone through, you have no idea who, when you say it out loud, that's going to like hit and leave with a huge, just a huge something on their heart that they take away from that retreat.

So you absolutely have something to add, whether you've been doing this for six months or three years. You are meant to be there. If you have the thought that you want to go, then you're meant to be there. That's, you wouldn't have the thought if it wasn't something you were supposed to do. That's, I truly, truly believe that.

So I, I just thought that was cool that we planned this today and didn't even put two and two together, that it was Natural Entrepreneur's Day.

Jen Thyrion: Yeah, and I'm going to say it can feel really, I mean, honestly, if you're going to go by yourself to a USA, you have no one to go with or, you know, but I have to say the ones that the retreats I did to go to where I didn't have anyone was what time I grew the most and the time that, you know, because you have no one else to kind of lean on, right?

You're putting yourself out there and trust me, yeah. It is super scary. It is. I mean, my first mastermind, we, we met in Waco and I'm in this house with all these strangers and, but it was the coolest, most, again, like growing, evolving experience for me, you know, and there's no way I would have probably had the same experience if I had gone with the bestie I was leaning on because I was scared.

It was like, okay, that's someone I can like talk to all the time, right? So, you know, That is going to grow you even more. Just kind of putting yourself out there and taking risks. Cause like a lot of women, of course, look up to you guys in the industry. And like, like you said, you have invested Lindy and Charity, like so much into where you are now.

It didn't just happen. You know what I mean? You've invested in yourself. You've invested in your business. And that's why you are who you are.

Shari Tammietti: I love that too about going by yourself because I think there, there's probably a lot of moms listening out there. And sometimes we use our kids as our comfort.

They're our security blanket. They go everywhere with us. It's good to get away. It's so good. And then you grow and you can come back and be bigger and better and stronger for your babies.

Jen Thyrion: Uh, yes, I know. I can't say that. Yeah, that's because honestly, of course, we use that as a reason like, oh, no, I have I have little kids I have to, you know, but use it as a reason to actually go like, you know what I mean?

Use it as a reason to go because again, you are if you are fulfilling something you want, you're only going to be a better a better parent for them. I yeah, I truly believe that too. So what other questions have you guys gotten about the retreat that anyone like anyone concerns or what is your most kind of FAQs I guess when it comes to the retreat?

Shari Tammietti: Probably like what, what's all included and it is all inclusive. So all of your meals, delicious, fantastic meals are included. We're going on some fun excursions. Those are included. Transportation from the airport to the resort, that's included. Any of the classes, workshops that we do, we're doing like a content creation day.

There will be a photographer there. All of that is included. Basically, you get yourself to Tulum and the rest is on us.

Lyndi Love: So good. Yes, exactly. I love, you know, the thought of, although we're planning it, so we are thinking through every detail, but if I was an attendee not thinking through every detail, that's also really nice to just show up and surrender and say, Let's do this.

Whatever. I'm here for it. I'm here for the experience. I'm here for the people. And I didn't have to plan it. I didn't have to worry about it. I just had to, like, secure my spot and then patiently, excitedly wait. Because you're right. It's the moment you arrive to the moment you leave when we're eating breakfast together and just reflecting on the time we've had.

You're taken care of. Oh my gosh, that

Jen Thyrion: alone kind of like makes me, it'd be like, cause as we talk about mom life, it's like, we literally have to plan everything. Like we're planning, you know, like every little, okay, what they're all eating, making sure they have clean clothes. If you go on a vacation, who's planning it most likely?

Uh, you know?

Shari Tammietti: Yeah. No one's going to ask you what's for dinner for three whole days. No one's going to ask you what's for dinner. That alone. Sign me

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If you want to know more, check it out at goldilinkssociety. com or at allthethingspermanentjewelry. com. I hope to see you there. Well, yeah, give us a little glimpse. So what kind of sort of workshops are happening? Like, what can you expect when, with, in going?

Lyndi Love: So we've been chatting about the experiences we've had and some of the experiences that have been the most impactful to us.

And I know me specifically have, having gone to many retreats, doing entrepreneurship retreats, leadership and corporate retreats. I, I've can remember specific activities that like sit with me and have never left me in my journey. And I'm definitely going to make sure we bring some of those to the table.

The things that I've done that I can sit and think that will, I'll just be doing something random like cooking dinner and remember the moment I had when I did this particular activity. Like, uh, we have so many that we have to, we have to look at the schedule and we're probably going to have to cut some because in true.

I mean, well, for me in Taipei fashion, I'm like, I want to do it all, but we can't do it all. Uh, because we also want to give people some time to relax, right? You're coming all the way to Tulum and we don't want to put you in front of a beach and say, there it is, but you never have any time to see it.

We've talked about this, there's a particular ceremony we want to do around the fire. One thing, it's kind of a little bit of eat or veggies, but I know a lot of questions I get is, I think I'm ready to hire in my business. How do I hire, how do I interview, what do I look for? Who do, how do I even run payroll?

So, uh, we're talking about incorporating, how do we incorporate some of that information into the retreat, and then a lot of it around. personal growth because to me, entrepreneurship is a healing journey. You never, you think it's just business and then you get into it and there's days where you're laughing and there's days where you're crying and you're like, I didn't even know I needed to heal all these things about myself and I'm now made to face them with entrepreneurship.

So we're going to go through some exercises like that. Shari and I have both been through different versions of Like I did the corporate, the 5D, and the Belbin, and the Enneagram type things, and we've talked about how can we incorporate some of those types of, or at least one type of session like that because you mentioned it, what you learn about yourself during this retreat will change the trajectory of your business.

It could be huge forever. I've been to retreats where we've done activities like this and people have walked away and they actually changed their entire business. They're like, they pivoted a hundred percent. Like I'm, this doesn't even, this particular thing doesn't bring me joy. I'm leaving it here and now I have an entirely new business or we've, you know, seeing people.

Get fire breathed back into their passion and they go and three times their business when they were just on the cusp of saying, I don't think I want to do this anymore. So for me, it's important that we blend in the eat your veggies here and there with the personal growth journey that people should expect when they leave, when they, they leave Tulum.

To be different. They're going to be different. Shari, do you have anything to add to that?

Shari Tammietti: I love that you touched on like the Enneagram and human design and stuff because I've told Lindy this, that learning my Enneagram, it sounds so silly, but literally changed my life. It changed my relationship. It changed the way I approach tasks, the way I organize my day, the way I parent.

It changed everything. Like, not to be dramatic, but it did. So learning little things about that, learning little things about yourself like that can be so, so powerful. And so, yeah, we've definitely talked about sprinkling that

Jen Thyrion: in as well. I mean, it's kind of fun. Like, I, I don't know what you guys have planned, but that's what's so cool about because we go through our daily lives and especially as like, we are, you know, full blown, I'm assuming everyone listening are adults and a lot of us have children, like I said, and responsibilities.

It's like, you don't. have a lot of chances to get out of your comfort zone and do these things that are kind of thrown into like, even if you go to a family vacation, you're planning it, right? The fact that you get to step in and you guys are like, Hey, we're going to do this. Like I went to that retreat last year and we did breath work.

I've actually never done breath work before. And it was mind blowing. Like talking about Lindy, like certain times where things just pop in your head. A lot of times it's from these retreats I went to where I'm like, ma'am, we did this mirror exercise that we had to look at ourselves and talk to ourselves in the mirror.

I'm like, Oh God, like I was a mess. Like When do you do that? When do you ever like someone kind of instructing you to go through that? And even if you were to read a book that says like, Hey, you should try this. Are you really though going to really do it? You know what I mean? So it's like these things that you're kind of like, and plus you're in a group of everyone doing it.

So it's not like this, you're not this odd man and weird person. You're, you're literally in this group of community of people that are in the same boat as you, you know, it's, it's literally life changing. I just can't say enough about it. And Enneagram, I don't know if we talked about the shari in our episode, but say it.

I had, I did, I did my Enneagram right when Goldie was born, and I remember I was just going through it. And I actually had a session with an Enneagram coach and found out I was a seven. And, and my life changed. Like you said, I, it kind of took a lot of guilt and shame, too, out of things I don't like about myself.

And I was like, Oh my God, like there's, everyone has strengths and weaknesses, right? So it kind of like helped me play up my strengths. But then also realize I had weakness. Again, I just need help with, or those are the things I can outsource because someone can do it better than me. So those are things that are so eyeopening, like you said, that's only going to serve you and your business and things that you almost, I, I truly feel are necessary.

That's how I truly feel. Like they're necessary to be able to move forward in your business. Oh my gosh, that's awesome. You're a seven. Lindy, do you know what you are? Yeah, I have to look it up. I think

Lyndi Love: I was a nine, right? I, it's funny because coming from the corporate world, we were very much about Belbin and 5D.

So it's like, are you a shaper kid? So we would create teams and say, okay, who's the plant? Who's the shaper or 5D? We would say, okay, who is high in excite and who's in it? Hi and explore and who is high in examine and try to create teams of people to produce the best outcome. And from all of those, right, you get your reports and I was telling you, I looked up my own Enneagram and went through and I'm like, yep, yep, yep.

It's, it's like this document in all of these different programs you read and you are like, I feel a tap and so mean right now because this is me to an absolute T and to know that. You know, that's the other thing is if you have employees and you do things like that together, even frankly, even your spouse and realize how you all can work together better to produce better outcomes.

Just knowing those things about yourself, super powerful. I know in 5D, I was really high. I'm really high in explore and then execute. Which means I have so many ideas, but I have to get them done or I'm super hard on myself, which is like the highest burnout 5D you can have because you have lots of ideas and always have to get them done.

And then you're just like, I can't do anything. So knowing that about myself, now I can kind of look back and self reflect and go, okay, you're doing the thing. Here's 15 cool things. Can we like do two? Let's do two, Lindy. It's powerful. It's powerful. If you haven't had experiences like that, and then you step into it, it's just like, like you, you said, Shari, it changed your whole world.

And it sounds dramatic because it actually can be a really, really big dramatic shift. And Jen, you're saying we don't do those things. It feels like one, we don't, we, we're looking for permission to, to take a moment for ourselves to do those things. And I feel like this retreat for permanent jewelry artists is that permission.

Here's your permission to just pause and you, you're like on the cusp maybe of burnout or you feel it and you keep bearing it down. Here's your permission to come just let go. And for me, I can't take a vacation and not think about business. So that's also why I like the retreat model for our, for our entrepreneurship type because it's like one, it's a business write off.

Hello. Right off. Um, but we're not stepping a hundred percent away from business, which can actually feel stressful for someone with a really strong entrepreneurial spirit. So you get both. You get the permission and the time for yourself to grow and reflect and still be planting those seeds in your business, which if you're working on yourself to your point, Sherry, you are your business.

You're, You're always working on your business if you're working on yourself.

Shari Tammietti: And if you're working on yourself, it doesn't matter what your business is, you'll be successful. Even if you decide, and I'm not even saying permanent jewelry is here to stay, but if you decided to step away from that and do something else, if you yourself know how you thrive, whatever you do is going to be successful.

Jen Thyrion: So true. And I just, and now I have to say that's the biggest surprise. I remember telling someone that after I started my business, what, nine, ten years ago, is like, I remember saying this to somebody. It was, it is the biggest lesson in self, or the biggest like journey in self discovery that I've ever had.

That's literally, I remember saying that, and they were looking at me like, what? You know, it's like, what? Okay, you have a boutique, you buy clothes and resell, big deal, you know what I mean? But it's literally there's so much more to it. It challenges your self worth, your money mentality, you know, your, your money mindset.

I mean, there's so many facets that go into it that, um, your confidence, like what you stand for, who you are, you have to dig deep and think about all those things. Like you said, Kashari, once you know that, whatever you decide to do, because you know yourself so well, and it's almost like you are your brand, right?

So it's like, once you know that, whatever direction you go in, Because like you said, Lindy, you might leave this thinking like, oh my gosh, I actually want to go this direction. This has been knocking, this has like been on my heart, and now that I found some clarity and I was able to sit still with it, and you know, hey, I'm going to go this direction.

You never know. It's crazy what can happen.

Lyndi Love: It is. It is. I've definitely, I've been to retreats where it, it sounds wild, but people have taken what they, I want to, I don't even say learn, maybe what they felt, what they experienced within themselves, and people have. Have changed careers, gotten married, gotten divorces, decided to have kids, decided they didn't want kids, and it's just wild when you go into it with one mindset and what you come out of it with.

Now, not to scare you, if the husbands are listening, we're not going to tell. your wives to divorce you. Um, we're all married. But, uh, you know, it really is, it's wild the, the changes that can happen during these retreats. They're powerful. If you've never done one, uh, you, even if you're, if you're nervous, just try one.

And at least this one is niche to you. Like, that's super cool to have something niche

Jen Thyrion: to you as well. It's so true. I remember because I had gone to a couple that were, and again, speaking about investment, because I know some people might see this, and granted it is Mexico, so you can't expect to just spend 500, right?

osure, my first mastermind in: 2018

No. Do I feel like I had the money to spend it at that time? No. , but honestly, it, it really, and even there was things I learned then that I didn't implement right away. 'cause I wasn't ready. Like I said, I, I had gone when I, I really felt like. Before I was ready, like I said, I didn't know a lot of things they were even talking about.

Like I, at that point, I didn't even know what a funnel was. You know what I mean? Like there's things I just didn't know. And, but it planted the seed for me to implement later. And again, it was more or less the clarity, the connection, and all that that played into like what, what led to my business.

forward. Like, it was just, you know, again, I think having, just speaking about that really quick because I think some people are just a little like, obviously will push it, like, maybe hold them back is the price is leaving your family. You know what I mean? All these things that we talk about that you're like, you really want it.

And if we really, you know, I feel like your gut's telling you it's, then it's going to be worth it. You know?

Lyndi Love: Yeah. We're wired as humans. to stay safe. That wiring to stay, to stay safe keeps us doing what we're doing because it's familiar. Familiarity equals safety. And if I hadn't put myself out there and took a risk, I guess you could say, calculated risk, if I haven't, hadn't made financial risks, if I hadn't made personal risks, putting myself up on stages or whatever I've done, My business would not, it could not be where it is now.

And so to me, it's almost like entrepreneurship and risk. And I don't really know if I want to call it risk. Let's call it courage. If you don't have courage as an entrepreneur, you probably won't be an entrepreneur for very long. So it's one of those things where your mind is going to throw out all the things of why you shouldn't go.

Because we're wired as humans to do that for safety. But to like scratch the record and rewire to all the reasons you should go. If you start thinking that way, all of a sudden things become easier. Courage becomes easier and you will naturally see business growth. You just, you just will when you have courage.

Jen Thyrion: Yes. And I think playing into that, like really listening, I always go back to listening to your gut because I just feel like that is the true like voice that's telling you like what direction you want to go. And like you said, all those like things that are keeping you safe are in your head. And depending on, you know, if you're a person that listens to that more or listens to this more and let's play and like also two people around you to complain to that too.

But it's like, no, it's just really come coming down to it because even like business decisions and stuff and like going back to like this retreat, which I think always for me has led to clarity. And it's really just. clarity again, like finding out more about myself, you know what I mean? More about myself that's leading to, you know, these big decisions.

So that's something we

Shari Tammietti: also talked about including in the retreat is like overcoming limiting beliefs. So if you if you can think of all the reasons why you shouldn't go like follow those. Follow those thoughts because they're gonna tell you something about yourself. Oh, I can't afford it. Why can't you afford it?

Oh, because money's tight. Why is money tight? Because we're in a recession and this and it's, it's leading you down a path of fear or anxiety or whatever it might be, which I think that's something really powerful I've learned at retreats too, is getting a firsthand look of, you know, we talk about limiting beliefs and I feel like a lot of times it's around money, but it doesn't have to be around money.

And it was so eye opening to see a literal list of limiting beliefs in your face and you say, okay, yep, that's me, that one, that one, and that one. And, you know, sitting with those for a minute and thinking, wow, that really is affecting not only my business, but like my daily life. Those limiting beliefs are affecting me.

Plus, we did the math, and, um, it will be about, cost you about 60 bracelets. We're thinking the same

Lyndi Love: thing. I've got my calculator up right now. Who's my next? I mean, because everyone knows I spend in bracelets, and I'm like, Mm, mm, mm. Okay, well, that'll take me, if, oh, average pop up, 10 bracelets. Okay, fine.

Okay, fine pop ups. Great. Done. Done deal.

Jen Thyrion: Is that the number you bought, Lindy? Hey, and you know what? Like, honestly, if you wanted to, let me see if there's someone who's just getting started, like you said, someone who's brand new. And cause I have to say, I had a banging event last night. I literally, 200 shy of paying for this in full.

Like that's literally like what I did last night. Okay. So, But if you're brand new and say you just want to be open and be like, Hey, I really want to stretch myself and go to this, have, try to get a party together where people know that you are getting money together to try and like work towards this, this retreat, is you feel it's going to serve you?

Shari Tammietti: Like how amazing can that be? I love that. I actually know a girl who does spray tans and she was trying to save up. She just does them part time. She's like a nurse, does spray tans part time. She was saving up for, uh, her honeymoon and she did something so cool. She had like in her little studio, sticky notes.

lined of how many spray tans she needed and every client that would come in would like sign a sticky note. I literally sent her money for a spray tan. I don't even live in the same state as her, but I was like, I want to be a part of that. Yes. I was following a

Jen Thyrion: girl on Instagram and she was selling wood.

She made these wood laser like cut earrings and she wanted to like, um, raise money to go back to school. And so she was selling, I don't really wear that, those earrings, but you better believe I bought a pair from her. You know what I mean? And she like, somehow she kept track too, and she was shouting at people that like, bought earrings from her.

That is such a great idea. I love that. I love it so much.

Shari Tammietti: When you're, you're including like, your customers, it's just such a personal part of your story. Such a great way to, Connect. I just love it. Love it so much. So if I'm ever in Oklahoma, I get a spray tan from this one girl, but I don't even know.

Jen Thyrion: I dig it.

Okay, any other questions that have popped up that people might have when listening to this? Like any other question that you've been getting, um, when it comes to the retreat? Anything else you can think of? I know safety has been brought up. I, whether you guys want to talk about that real quick? I mean,

Shari Tammietti: you're gonna find Danger anywhere you go.

I, I'm a seven. You can agree to this. All I care about is having fun. I don't care about the details, but I've been there. I shouldn't say that because the details matter, but I have been there and have felt very, very safe. Tulum is, it's like small town. It's very small town. The people that work at the resort are amazing.

The minute you land in the airport, you're going to be on private transport. from the airport to the resort. So I'm, I know that's

Jen Thyrion: all I have to say about it to know. I think if anything, people are thinking, yeah, once you're on the resort, but they're thinking the transportation maybe or something like something happening between the two.

But

Shari Tammietti: we've been mindful about that too. So we know that, you know, if you're coming alone, you might not feel comfortable, no matter where you are, you might not feel comfortable going from the airport to, you know, a hotel. But We've been mindful about that and we'll be like leaving in groups so you'll wait at the airport for people that are arriving near the same time and then the shuttle service will bring you to the resort and same going back home.

Perfect.

Jen Thyrion: Yeah, I have to say I sure like I landed in Indianapolis and by myself for a business thing last year or the one before and the I'm like, oh, so tell me about the area. I've never been here. He's like, the crime is really terrible. Um, it's and I'm like, okay, cool. And then I proceeded to walk around downtown by myself.

Like, it's just, I'm the

Shari Tammietti: same way, I'm the same way. We were just in Galveston, Texas, checking out at a grocery store, and the lady was like, oh, are you from here? And I'm like, no, just visiting. And she's like, hey, you need to be sure that you're indoors when it hits nighttime, because this, this, and this, and the crime is crazy, and whatever.

And I'm like,

Lyndi Love: Uh, yeah, we, we've had the safety issue pop up, but frankly, if you look at safety risk, if you're looking at France and Italy and all the places, maybe places that have been more romanticized, but actually have a higher crime rating. Paris is terrible. Uh, So I think there's that, especially if you've never done something like this before, you, I mean, everything is gonna feel scary.

If you've never traveled anywhere by yourself before, I'm a very like, I have this invincible personality, so sometimes I don't think about these things. I'm just like, I dare them, you know, like, um, but I have to remember that. You know, not everyone is wired the same and that's okay. It's what, it's what makes us all great.

We're different. But truly to Shari's point, you're never alone. We've thought through everything and you're gonna face danger anywhere you go. It's about being smart. You know, you walk with purpose. You don't look down at your cell phone and leave the resort and walk around alone and not, you just, You just have your wits about you like you would anywhere, and then one thing someone said was, well, it's an all women's retreat, so that feels dangerous to me because it seems like it would be targeted even more because it's all women.

Well, our retreat is all women, yes, but There are, there are men that work on the resort and I don't, it's not this nationally advertised thing on the Super Bowl and every no, everyone knows there's going to be this group of 20 gorgeous permanent jewelry artists that we must take out in Mexico in April.

Like it's, it is, it is safe. Mexico is as safe as you make it. I guess that's, that's what I could say about it is. Just be smart. Just be smart. Yeah.

Jen Thyrion: Yeah. Be smart. Yeah. So I, I know we covered so much of what, obviously, I feel like we really, I don't know, dove into what, like, kind of you're going to get from this retreat.

But being that you guys are both trainers, what do you feel permanent jewelers struggle with the most? What is the most that you hear when it comes to their struggles? And, like, I guess how you feel the retreat will obviously help with that.

Lyndi Love: For me, I would say I've got two programs. I have got my academy where it's entry level, and then I have an accelerator where it's people that have been in permanent jewelry a little bit longer.

And in all cases, it is mindset. In all cases, that's what I see the number one thing is an issue where You know, they'll want to tell me 10 reasons why they can't do something and I'm just like karate chopping. Nope. That's not a reason Nope, that's not a reason. Oh roadblock. Nope. We're gonna move that now What now what right and it's it always comes down to well, you know, what if I fail what if people don't like me?

What if nobody shows up i'm doing x y and z and it it Always comes back to mindset. There's actually no true tactical, physical issue that they can't get past beyond maybe the 1 percent that genuinely cannot hold a jump ring or really can't no matter what we give them cannot see. And they're like, Ooh, I guess this isn't for me.

Beyond that, it's really, really mindset. And even if, if there's something that someone's not good at, like whatever, social media, graphics, all the things, If you have the mindset to go work on that thing, you may not be perfect at it, but as long as you say, Oh, I have the capacity to go figure this out and not create all the reasons why you can't, then you'll succeed.

So for me and my, in my world and my students, that's what I see is we're consistently working on mindset. Why is this a roadblock? What do you, what do you think, Shari?

Shari Tammietti: Yeah, I think I'm thinking of all kind of like the conversations I've had with people. And a lot of times it does come down to fear. I don't know.

I don't want to spend the money and have it not work out. I don't want, how do I ask someone to do a pop up? What if, you know, just all the what ifs and like Lindy said, it's just, that's all up here. And with practice, you can, override those feelings, but it just takes practice. Like you don't have to just be an afraid person for the rest of your life.

If you can recognize those things and actively work on them, you know, like that's a limiting belief. So how can we change that? And what will your life look like moving forward? It could be so powerful, but yeah, I would say it kind of boils down to the, the fear, anxiety, what ifs.

Jen Thyrion: I know. Okay. Limited beliefs.

Let's just say that. When you were talking, I was thinking like, I can think of a lot of different reasons why people don't start. One of the things you were saying is like, Oh, I don't know if it's going to work. I'm going to spend all this money. Oh, it's too saturated in my area. So I'm not going to start.

Oh, the economy is crappy. It's an election year. Like we talk about all these things. that just kind of keep us where we are. It's like, justifies not doing anything. You know what I mean? And justifies not being successful because, oh, we just don't know social media. That's why we're not doing well. Oh, we just don't.

You know what I mean? So it's like, really, again, fear, yeah, limited beliefs, like mindset. I mean, agreed, agreed. And again, I have to say, the biggest thing you can do is go to retreats when you're trying to get beyond all that. There's no, it's just, Life changing.

Lyndi Love: It really is. Retreats will absolutely tap.

It'll, it'll hit on things that you think you didn't, you didn't even realize were an issue actually and then you're like, why am I feeling this way right now? Okay, I guess I just needed that pointed out because it's so much easier to blame other things than when you realize you Actually are in control.

There's that moment of, I don't know if we can cuss on here, but, oh shit, I'm in control. Everything that happens to me, I actually am in control of, okay, so there's that, there's that scary realization at first. But then when you, when you get past that scariness, there's this power in. Okay, everything that happens to me, I control, like, don't care about that, don't care about that, blinders on, I'm driving this bus.

And when you can get, and sometimes it takes being in groups of people that have that mindset or work on that mindset to almost just absorb it from them and go, okay, all right, I am in control and this is actually cool, not scary. Retreats are a really great place to do that.

Shari Tammietti: I love that. I love that you said that because I think that some of our target audience may be new to business.

And so all of this, even talking about limiting beliefs might be something that's new to them. You know, they just think, Oh, this is just the way that I am. But you're coming to a place where you're going to be introduced to a lot of new things that can really just, we've said it a million times, but change your business and

Jen Thyrion: change your life.

I like it. So true. It's so true, because I mean, I know we talked about this a little bit, Shari, when we, me and you were talking about competition on our one on one, but it's like, it reminds me of, you know, if we have certain feelings, even about a competitor or something, it really just comes down to us.

It is not about them. It's like, even if you have emotions towards that, what's that emotion telling you about yourself and about your business? And like, so when you can get to a point where you're, you're kind of, you know, processing things that way, that's when it becomes powerful. That's when you can change things.

Rather than, again, always blaming, blaming, blaming. Oh, now another person's in my area. Oh, now someone's doing the same thing I'm doing. You know what I mean? Like, that's not going to help you. That's not going to grow you, you know? And

Shari Tammietti: it helps you not take your own emotions so seriously because if you can kind of look inside and be like, okay, I'm really, I'm really upset that my competitors in this event and I'm not.

Okay, why am I upset? You dig a little deeper. Jealousy, maybe, or, um, you were afraid to reach out, or you could have done two events, but you're afraid to hire somebody because you don't think anybody's going to be good enough, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, we can go down a million different roads, but when you can learn, we all have emotions, but we don't want that to be what makes our decisions.

Let's kind of take the emotion out, figure out where it's coming from, break it down, and then we can make decisions based on. reality or what we want our reality to be.

Jen Thyrion: Yeah, it's almost like separating yourself and seeing, okay, and like really, you know, assessing your emotions rather than like living in them, right?

It's like, okay, like I feel this way, but okay, let's, let's, let's diagnose this a little bit kind of thing. I love that.

Lyndi Love: My best friend always talks about what meaning you're assigning to things, like what meaning are you giving to things? If your competitor is there and you're not, did you just give it the meaning that they must like them more?

Is that the meaning you just gave that? And why did you give it that meaning? And how do you even know that's actually, frankly, maybe that person applied before you, maybe your application got lost, maybe whatever, they weren't clear what you did, or it had nothing to do with that. So you, you know, back to entrepreneurship being the most, the journey of self discovery of what meaning am I attaching to why I didn't get into that event?

What meaning am I attaching to why? Even something as simple as, oh, I put my heart and soul into that reel and three people watched it. What, are you giving it meaning that I'm not good at this or are you looking at it factually and going, Oh, well, I posted it at a weird time and only a small percentage of people see and I haven't done any work on engaging with anyone and I have three followers.

So actually, statistically, it's really good that they

Jen Thyrion: all saw it. Whoa, true. Like I said, you know, that's why I like playing into this piece of clarity and working on yourself is because that really plays into what kind of mind felt worth self worth. It's like, are you taking that in to be like, Oh, I'm like, no one likes me.

This is never gonna work. Or you're like, okay, this I did this. I'm so proud that I put it out there. I'd made my first real three people liked it. Heck yeah, three people because you know, the whole thing they say like, if 20 people like picture 20 people in the room, that's actually a decent amount of people don't ever, you know, One person matters, right, is what I'm trying to say.

So, but are you using that as just a jumping, like, use, what a mindset are you gonna, in perspective, are you gonna look at this, right? Like, okay, I'm gonna try again and I'm gonna get better every time. And, you know, kind of your attitude towards it, right? And what is that, yeah, what meaning are you attaching?

Oh my God, I'm so excited. I feel like I was already at a retreat for a little bit.

Lyndi Love: I want to make sure, we're not remiss, I know we're at an hour, but one, Jen, I love that you jumped in to say, I want a sponsor. I was so, um, Excited for that and the fact you are loved for the beautiful handmade artistry that that you do and that you teach others to do and the fact that you wanted to sponsor and come do that.

That's a retreat we're putting on. We're honored that you want to be there and that we think everyone who is going to be there as well will be really excited about a session with you. I mean, I can't think of anything more awesome than being near or on a white sand beach and hand making jewelry and the wit, like, I love it.

Another thing I wanted to make sure we mentioned is we are, we're accepting sponsors and Sunstone came in as our Unchained, our partner sponsor. So they're a partner sponsor as well and we were talking and we don't want people to have to make a, choice between Permanent Jewelry Expo, PJX, and The Retreat.

And we want to make sure that it's really clear that, you know, if you can do both, do both because they are so very different. There's something very different about connecting with yourself and being in a small group and your entrepreneurial journey than there is in being in a big group and lots of educational content and opportunities to shop.

It's just like night and day. And we actually did think they were going to be a bit farther apart when we planned April. We were thinking it would probably be in June, but PJX is a little sooner. But we got with Sunstone and said, Hey, how, how can we make it less of a choice and more of how do I work to make sure I can invest in my business twice that year?

And we've agreed to partner in sponsoring every person that goes to our retreat, you will get a hundred dollars off your PJX ticket. So if you. Are coming to the Unchained Retreat between Shari and I and Sunstone sponsoring that we're sponsoring 100 off everyone's ticket So it can be less of a choice and hopefully you get to do two really cool powerful things for your business this year Next year

Jen Thyrion: technically.

Yeah. Oh, yeah next year when you keep saying that is that like I can't think of how much more impactful PJX will be if you already have gone to this a month prior because like you're going to gain so much clarity and all the things we've been talking about that those classes are going to mean something completely different to you that they would have if you didn't go like I just can't stop thinking about that so it's just going to be it's just going to maximize your experience like times 100 like I don't know I just can't even I'm trying to make some analogy and I'm like it's like preheating the oven I don't know.

like so much more impactful. I don't know how else to say it. You know,

Shari Tammietti: it will, though, because it'll, you know, you'll, you'll walk away from unchained understanding your strengths and weaknesses. And if maybe putting yourself out there is a weakness, and at PJX, you wouldn't dare go to dinner with somebody you didn't know, or sit with somebody you didn't know.

It's those moments that are so powerful at conventions like that. And you're going to open yourself up to be willing to do that. So I just, I love, I love the combination. I hope that everybody can do both because it's, Gonna be great.

Lyndi Love: And the thing is, we're coming from a retreat that I do annually. I want to see, there's women from the UK and Australia and all over the place, so we really can only see each other once a year.

Will the bond you make in a small group at a retreat like this When you're completely stripped away from everything, but just with each other. We are going to be so excited to see each other again come May. Like, it's going to be our quick mini reunion that we're pumped for. So, it's also the connections you build.

Jen Thyrion: Yeah, and like you said, kind of, Shari, a little bit, where it's like stepping out of your comfort zone or going along, it's going to be more used to it, you know, as you just, because I have to say, I'm so used to traveling by myself. I remember there was a time where I'm like, I would never sit in a restaurant and eat by myself.

Now I'm like, yes, I want to sit in a restaurant. I will go to a movie by myself. I don't even care. I'll do anything by myself because I just feel like I've done it so many times that now it's like no big deal. And now I can, it's some, like a muscle you're growing, right? So. I love it. Get out of your comfort zone for sure.

Okay, anything else you guys want to share? Let's share with where we find this amazing retreat, all the goodies. I know you have an early bird, so what does that look like? All the things. Yes, our

Shari Tammietti: early bird is over on November 30th, so I know this is going to come out that week, so get on it. It's November 30th.

Registering before November 30th gets you 300 off.

Lyndi Love: I have to go to the website, but that sounds about right.

Shari Tammietti: You can find us at theunchainedretreat on Instagram. And that'll get you everything, all the info you need.

Lyndi Love: Yeah. If you go to unchambertree on Instagram, there is a link to the website right there where you can purchase tickets.

And one thing I want to make sure people noticed is we are doing payment plans and we're doing a skip December payment plan, but we've. Been working through details. We would have loved to have put out the ticket site earlier, but right in business, it is what it is. We got it out of students week current and we realized, okay, well, this is going to be right.

You know, if you celebrate Christmas, this is right before Christmas or whatever other holidays. And we thought, well, what do we, why don't we do a skip December payment plan? So you can literally go put down your deposit, go put down your five bracelet deposit right now. Um, Five Bracelet with FIP deposit.

Then don't think about it again until January. You've also, P. S. you might need some write offs before the end of the year. Maybe? You might need some write offs. So if you need a write off, go ask your accountant, CPA, whatever, and be like, hmm. 20 this much of a write off. And whether it be the full ticket price or it be the deposit, if you put the deposit down, don't think about it again until next year and then make your payments.

And it's so, it's so attainable, achievable that way when you're doing the payment plan because you can literally be at a pop up and have that in the back of your head. Today is the day I pay for my unchanged payment. This is the day I pay for my growth for this month. Yes, I love it. So good.

Shari Tammietti: Also, spots are limited, so If you're feeling called to do this,

Lyndi Love: Yes, I know I'm gonna be so sad if it's like, nope, sorry, we're full.

I know, and we cannot do any, I was telling my students, I said, listen, we're opening this up, and I make magic work whenever I can in a lot of instances, but I cannot build more rooms. There is Just is what it is. So if you want to go, go buy it now and then don't worry about it because there's only so many rooms.

Jen Thyrion: Okay, so someone's not following you each individually. Where can we find you?

Shari Tammietti: Find me at permanentjewelrytraining on Instagram or permanentjewelrytraining. com is my website. And for me,

Lyndi Love: permanentjewelrybestie on Instagram or Facebook and permanentjewelrybestie. com and it's B E S T I E, not Y, like some people want it to be.

Who, I, who, who spells bestie that way? You know, I've gotten it before, like, why did you spell it that way? That's not how I spell

Jen Thyrion: bestie. And I thought, I, you know, I don't know. I've always I spelled it that way. That's what I read. Okay. Thank you so much, ladies. This is so much fun. Now I'm looking forward to it even more.

So you guys make a really awesome team. I have to say, I think you're the perfect duo for this. So I'm excited. Thank you. I'm pumped. I'm excited. Well, thank you so much. We'll be talking to you soon and seeing you in Mexico. Love it! Bye, guys. Well, how do you feel? I hope you found value in today's episode and you walk away feeling inspired.

I would love to hear from you. Let's link up. You can find me on Instagram at GoldieLinkSociety. You can find out more about our permanent jewelry membership at GoldieLinkSociety. com, our handmade permanent jewelry supplies of connectors, chain, and more at GoldieLinkSupplies. com. Okay, I will see you next time.

Have a golden day.